tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post1483121808490153566..comments2024-03-07T18:07:32.939+01:00Comments on That grumpy BSD guy: OpenBSD and the modern laptopPeter N. M. Hansteenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12852746787621165833noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-57084511228324077122021-04-01T12:47:26.002+02:002021-04-01T12:47:26.002+02:00I2C is almost 40 years old. It has been used on ev...I2C is almost 40 years old. It has been used on every notebook motherboard that I have ever seen due to its need for only two lines thus reducing the space needed. Common uses are RTC, NVRAM, temperature sensors, fan controllers. It is also used in VGA, DVI, and HDMI connects. Usually, all of this is handled by the BIOS and is not an issue for the OS.AThomas M. Beaudry K8Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553823595617526126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-45332722710721104962020-06-10T13:11:56.776+02:002020-06-10T13:11:56.776+02:00try i2c based machines and post back. Specifically...try i2c based machines and post back. Specifically chromebooks. They rock (not for power, for uptime) but criticism is down to the fact that when, ripped of their Googly bits (new coreboot loader) they suck. Arguments then being that i2c is rapidly being the norm now. Confucious says: OpenBSD rocks, on old junk.confucioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13459094826597288380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-9935910435034729422019-12-27T13:22:17.157+01:002019-12-27T13:22:17.157+01:00Assuming you are referring to running X (GUI), the...Assuming you are referring to running X (GUI), the touchpad on this machine (and as far as I recall all other machines I've set up with OpenBSD) did not require any specific configuration steps in order to work. <br />Peter N. M. Hansteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852746787621165833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-71222086814848545872019-12-27T13:14:03.170+01:002019-12-27T13:14:03.170+01:00PLease how do you configure your OpenBSD fur using...PLease how do you configure your OpenBSD fur using the touchapd ?<br /><br />Thanks for your answerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-55025872350640220682018-12-24T19:40:54.108+01:002018-12-24T19:40:54.108+01:00It's an awesome post . I read this article . J...It's an awesome post . I read this article . Just niceArthur Shelbyhttps://www.clippingpathquick.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-59306869660207301402018-10-26T06:58:32.466+02:002018-10-26T06:58:32.466+02:00Simply wish to say the frankness in your article i...Simply wish to say the frankness in your article is surprising.<br />Oscar Fernandezhttps://www.clippingsolutions.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-35937459897117187052018-05-24T07:37:46.955+02:002018-05-24T07:37:46.955+02:00I haven't encountered any HP Stream 11s in the...I haven't encountered any HP Stream 11s in the wild, at least not ones I could play with.<br /><br />If you're able to get a dmesg along with an explanation of what happens to misc@ and/or bugs@ that will hopefully produce some useful input.Peter N. M. Hansteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852746787621165833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-29384703076717384002018-05-24T07:36:08.900+02:002018-05-24T07:36:08.900+02:00What make and model are you referring to here? The...What make and model are you referring to here? The machine featured in the article came with Ethernet (re) built in, and I think even the slimmer Clevos come with Ethernet, though some only as USB dongles.<br /><br />But if you did get the firmware installed, assuming the combination is indeed supported, and you have a meaningful hostname.if for the interface, a netstart for the interface should get you going.Peter N. M. Hansteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852746787621165833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-24891103720279972692018-05-24T06:54:36.026+02:002018-05-24T06:54:36.026+02:00(also, fwiw: OpenBSD works GREAT on my old PowerPC...(also, fwiw: OpenBSD works GREAT on my old PowerPC iBooks. and I bet the Lenovo laptops are really good. This HP Stream 11 is not that easy.)<br /><br />This blog does help me a lot, and wishing for better device support on walled-garden Atom SoCs is a bit silly of me.BoydWatershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09408759759835176081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-76580386510880653282018-05-24T06:44:51.364+02:002018-05-24T06:44:51.364+02:00none of this worked for me. this Braswell laptop d...none of this worked for me. this Braswell laptop does not have an Ethernet port, so I must rely upon sneakernet and wifi. And of course the wifi firmware is a post-install process. So I have that all sorted. But there is no documentation I can find regarding any loading of device drivers after firmware installation.<br /><br />My first run with BSD was in 1987 with Sun 3/60 workstations and VAXen of various sorts. The Linux distro I tolerate best is Gentoo (and now Funtoo) because the system is relatively clean and BSD-like. I ran FreeBSD for a couple of years on my office workstations, but that was ten years ago. Around that time, 2007, I went back to OpenSolaris for the ZFS. And for 20 years, it's been NeXTStep and macOS for most everything.<br /><br />Overall, there are pain points with initial OpenBSD setup that I can't get past. It is wonderful to hear that It Just Works for everyone but me.<br /><br />And yet the frustration is there, I am back in 1987, reading the man pages.. They were literally printed out on paper back then, and were kept in monstrous binders on tables at the end of each row of workstations.<br /><br />This laptop needs to be plugged in, since the power management does not seem to be a thing, so I gotta get back to it...<br /><br />It takes a lot of work.BoydWatershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09408759759835176081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-20892454947657772782018-02-24T05:27:39.441+01:002018-02-24T05:27:39.441+01:00It’s been 6 years since the last time I read about...It’s been 6 years since the last time I read about OpenBSD installation tutorial so I felt it was time to update it for the newest OpenBSD (6.2)!Hannah@CCleanerhttps://ccleanerdownloads.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-55123110048805429022018-01-05T10:17:34.590+01:002018-01-05T10:17:34.590+01:00Thanks for the article! Very comprehensive write-u...Thanks for the article! Very comprehensive write-up.<br /><br />Since installing OpenBSD 6.2, my laptop began freezing during boot, with the screen going black and the system not responding to anything except the power button. I know my laptop is anything but new (a bulky 2012-era Dell), but 6.1 was working perfectly before the upgrade. I doubt OpenBSD would simply drop hardware support on a dime (especially with no warning), so I'm concerned this is either a bug in the kernel, or some problem with NVIDIA `dmesg` yielded nothing insightful.<br /><br />Do you know what might be the cause, or even how to go about debugging it? I've rolled back to 6.1 in the meantime, because there's only so much 80×25 emulation one can take before going cross-eyed... ;)<br /><br />Huge thanks in advance for any help or advice! :D<br /><br />- John<br /><br />PS: I did use `sendbug(1)` to report this issue before downgrading; however, it got held in queue. I hope it ended up getting through...Alhadishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03883795524959088970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-51794180704140605872017-11-15T21:24:32.359+01:002017-11-15T21:24:32.359+01:00Thanks for article! Really like the "OpenBSD ...Thanks for article! Really like the "OpenBSD and you" as well.<br /><br />I have a silly issue with OpenBSD 6.2 + Xfce + xenodm combination. I need to login twice to enable restart and shutdown options in logout ui.<br /><br />Not a big problem, but still a bit annoying. I have followed pkg_readmeas guidelines, but I suspect some race condition between dbus, consolekit and xfce.<br /><br />peter-ljunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06505254058373972032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-73833988396678645732017-11-09T05:23:06.407+01:002017-11-09T05:23:06.407+01:00Good article. People actually wonder about what OS...Good article. People actually wonder about what OS you run? It has been my experience that the vast majority of people out there barely know what OS stands for, let alone notice that the one I am running is vastly different under the hood. <br /><br />I've been running current for well over a decade on my 'primary workstation'. The only reason I run OpenBSD is because I think UNIX is pretty swell, and I love to write c code. Go no further than the gold standard OpenBSD for that niche interest. Luckily, I've never been affected by any form of elitist ass-hat syndrome that seems to run strong in the developer clique. I still love my several Mac OS, iOS, Microsoft Windows machines for the awesome variety of software they run. ( i even run Linux for my Plex servers yikes). I enjoy your writing over the years. Your dedication to and mastery of BSD is pretty impressive.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-50018059510274478122017-10-18T06:14:01.646+02:002017-10-18T06:14:01.646+02:00Workstation defines it's role, not it's ha...Workstation defines it's role, not it's hardware. Unless utterly ridiculous data manipulation is required, ECC isn't really a requirement anywhere. You'd be stupid not to have it on a server using software defined storage or performing financial transactions, but outside of those roles it's really more of a boon to troubleshooting than anything else.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013688416579905102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-79331941780106447792017-07-19T10:07:34.871+02:002017-07-19T10:07:34.871+02:00Not that I would ever to be able to run any OS on ...Not that I would ever to be able to run any OS on a machine like that.. but still, nice report, thanks for sharing :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-15675212329891200582017-07-16T00:03:53.849+02:002017-07-16T00:03:53.849+02:00Regarding graphics, IIRC inteldrm support for Skyl...Regarding graphics, IIRC inteldrm support for Skylake will arive in 6.2 and is available in current.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09630695377410326609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-38711849348165109602017-07-14T04:12:55.768+02:002017-07-14T04:12:55.768+02:00In terms of data transfer you could also use sftp(...In terms of data transfer you could also use sftp(1) from base - nowadays it even supports resume! :^)rjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02268475690544711342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-60578962640940946242017-07-12T23:46:09.436+02:002017-07-12T23:46:09.436+02:00SSD's have a very long lifespan these days, a ...SSD's have a very long lifespan these days, a spinning laptop disk will probably die faster anyways. http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-deadNicolai Mollerupnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-46616486780583935282017-07-12T23:03:12.329+02:002017-07-12T23:03:12.329+02:00I tend to switch between Firefox and Chrome, the l...I tend to switch between Firefox and Chrome, the last few weeks Chrome has won. The model is "Talisa U831" and the configurable one ("Konfigurator"). The menu path is "PC & NETTBRETT" -> "Bærbar PC & tilbehør" -> "Ultrabook / tynne og lette" and browse to "Multicom Talisa U831 (konfigurator)" where the options are not actually translated to any large degree :)<br /><br />If you offer from there, you *will* get a Norwegian keyboard, though: https://www.multicom.no/systemconfigurator.aspx?q=st:10637291;c:100559;fl:0#4091-10500502-1;4086-10637290-1;4088-9101982-1;4089-9101991-1;4087-8562157-2<br />Peter N. M. Hansteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852746787621165833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-59912026089424782802017-07-12T22:28:11.682+02:002017-07-12T22:28:11.682+02:00Peter, which browser are you using lately in your ...Peter, which browser are you using lately in your latest OpenBSD installations? Also, can you share the exact link to that computer in the website you mentioned in the article. I do not know Norwegian... :-DAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03840559233668686026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-23131103752128239312017-07-12T21:01:08.626+02:002017-07-12T21:01:08.626+02:00Thanks! I'm happy to hear you liked it.
You&#...Thanks! I'm happy to hear you liked it.<br /><br />You're probably right about the issue of placing swap on SSD vs hard drive. <br /><br />Here's hoping that with that amount of RAM, swapping won't be much of an issue even with the slightly heavy-duty lab work I have in mind for this one.<br />Peter N. M. Hansteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852746787621165833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-78817456387217123992017-07-12T20:50:27.605+02:002017-07-12T20:50:27.605+02:00Great article. My only thoughts might be to consid...Great article. My only thoughts might be to consider putting swap on the hdd and not the ssd, as the read/write lifespan is still limited on ssd. Thoughts? I do this on my desktops with the dual-disk configurations.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120821299869143655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-6414651284006456072017-07-12T09:28:27.802+02:002017-07-12T09:28:27.802+02:00If I remember correctly, suspend will use your swa...If I remember correctly, suspend will use your swap space to store contents of system memory, and https://man.openbsd.org/apm seems to confirm that. <br /><br /><br />Anyway, even if I only rarely do use the suspend feature, I tend to allocate swap space equal to double the amount of physical RAM. <br /><br /><br />In some scenarios that's overkill, but for full system crashdumps and suspend you actually need the space. Peter N. M. Hansteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852746787621165833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8616610987649128333.post-9510718426972178652017-07-12T09:13:18.942+02:002017-07-12T09:13:18.942+02:00You did not mention the layout of disks. Does susp...You did not mention the layout of disks. Does suspend require separate mount?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com